By Dan Wooding
Founder of ASSIST Ministries
NASHVILLE, TN
(ANS) -- I had just moved to Southern
California in 1982 with my family to start a new life here in the Golden
State, when a Christian businessman, Duane Logsdon, with whom I had
just co-authored a book called "The Million Dollar Promise," invited me
to join him and his wife, Carole, on a return trip to the UK to report
on a crusade that Argentine-born evangelist, Luis Palau was to hold in
the Yorkshire city of Leeds.
Carole and Duane Logson who invited Dan Wooding to join them for the eventful Leeds crusade
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It turned out to be a rather
strange affair for Luis as he was constantly heckled by some anarchists
in the crowded tent where his outreach was being held, but one good
thing came out of the Leeds trip, and that was I began a long friendship
with David Jones, who is now VP of Corporate Affairs at the Luis Palau
Association in Portland, Oregon.
I caught up with David
earlier this year at NRB 2013 in Nashville, Tennessee, and was able to
interview him for my Front Page Radio program, and we began our chat
reliving that bizarre time together in Leeds.
"Well yeah that was back in
1982, and Luis had just come from Guatemala where he had an amazing
outreach event attended by 700,000 people on the closing Sunday," he
said. "It was phenomenal when you see the aerial photos of it. From
Guatemala, we went straight to Leeds, England, where we went from a
crowd of 700,000 to maybe a couple thousand people in a tent and people
asking us, 'What are you doing in Leeds in a tent?'
"The reason is that Luis just
has an amazing affection and love for the British Isles and the people
of Great Britain. It was British missionaries that introduced Luis'
parents and his family to Jesus Christ. So he feels an amazing
indebtedness to Britain for their passion in the old days for sending
missionaries all over the world especially to his homeland Argentina."
Luis
Palau spoke to overflow crowds every night during his ten-day 1982
Leeds, England Crusade. Despite nightly attempts by anarchists to
disrupt the meetings, and threats to burn down the tent, some 35,000
attended
the mission |
A huge smile enveloped David
Jones's face as he remembered the incident, and he said, "Luis was
absolutely in shock and he wasn't too sure what was going on because in
all his years of preaching and ministry nothing had ever happened like
that. You know, of course, it would happen in the British Isles because
you Brits are crazy (laughs). But, yes, that was a wild night because
once they removed her from the microphone and Luis resumed his message
and it came time for the invitation for people to receive Jesus Christ,
we then discovered that there were a group of anarchists throughout the
audience who had been coached to jump up and down and disrupt the
meeting. I recall we had some overzealous Christian police volunteers
who I think were with an organization called the Christian Police
Association who were very effective at removing the anarchists from the
meeting.
"These protests went on every
night of the meetings in Leeds. It was wild. We even had several bomb
scares and threats to burn down the tent."
He went on to say, "I don't
think Americans realize that that this part of England has had a lot of
satanic influence with a long history of occult activity and black
magic. It's one part of England where historically it's been a very
demonic area so to go in there and share the love of Jesus Christ was
special to us in a bid to try to dispel that darkness.
David Jones, Luis Palau's colleague
for 35 years |
"But not just in England. We were
over in China a few years ago where Luis has had an open door to do
ministry there, and he was privileged to speak at one of the leading
universities in China, probably considered equal to Harvard, and he was
asked to speak on 'Is Jesus Christ Relevant?' The interesting thing is
when he was in Leeds he spoke at the University there on the very same
topic. So Luis is addressing professors, students at this prestigious
university in China, and afterwards two professors came up to him and
whispered in his ear. One of them said, 'We were students at Leeds
University back in 1982 when you came and spoke and we gave our lives to
Jesus Christ that day.'
"This just shows the importance of befriending and reaching out to international students. It's a very important ministry.
"But back to his visits to
the UK, it's amazing how many events we've had where for whatever reason
the anarchists want to come out and try to disrupt the meetings. But
you know what they meant for evil the Lord has effectively turn for good
and we've been blessed to work with our brothers and sisters in
England, Scotland and Wales through the years and we've just seen many
people trust Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
"Two of the reasons Luis
loves going back to the British Isles are because he wants to show his
gratitude for the number of missionaries Great Britain has sent
throughout the world, and it gives him an opportunity to meet so many
men and women who came to know the Lord at one of his meetings, many of
whom have gone into the pastorate or fulltime ministry. By the way, Matt
Redmond, the well-known worship song-writer, at age 12 made his
decision to follow Jesus Christ at a Luis Palau crusade in London at old
Queens Park Rangers stadium."
David then told me that Luis Palau has preached now in over 75 countries, often with great danger to himself.
Luis preaching in 2011 at his Arizona
Festival in Phoenix |
"He's 78 years old and is the
most healthy and fit 78 year old I know. He's got a fifteen year plan. I
mean how many 78 year old men have a fifteen year plan for their life?"
I then asked David to give an outline of Luis Palau's background, and he replied, "Luis is from Argentina and was born into a very affluent family. His dad was a very successful contractor, but sadly when he father was in his mid-thirties and Luis was only 12 years old, his dad died of pneumonia leaving behind Luis and his five younger sisters. His mother was not a business woman and within a couple of years she lost the business to some relatives.
I then asked David to give an outline of Luis Palau's background, and he replied, "Luis is from Argentina and was born into a very affluent family. His dad was a very successful contractor, but sadly when he father was in his mid-thirties and Luis was only 12 years old, his dad died of pneumonia leaving behind Luis and his five younger sisters. His mother was not a business woman and within a couple of years she lost the business to some relatives.
"So the family went from
wealth and affluence to extreme poverty and, during those teenage years,
Luis thought he'd become a lawyer so he could defend all the widows and
orphans in South America, but the Lord got a hold of him and helped him
realize that he could do a lot more good for the world by proclaiming
God's Good News and introducing people to his Son, Jesus Christ.
Luis and Pat Palau
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"He's had the privilege of introducing millions of people to Jesus Christ and the Lord has really blessed his ministry. Being originally from Argentina, Luis speaks Spanish fluently but he is also fluent in English. Luis has three daily radio programs, one in English and two in Spanish. He's been broadcasting in Spanish for over fifty years. Luis has no idea how old he is because he's got the same amount of energy that he had when I first met him thirty-five years ago."
China has been a place where Luis Palau has had some amazing experiences, said Jones.
"Luis has had a love for China
since he was a boy," he went on to say. "His mom helped him develop a
love for all people, but especially the people of China. As a boy Luis
prayed for countries especially China and he dreamed of the day when he
might be able to share Jesus Christ with the Chinese people.
"Then the Lord miraculously
opened up that door some thirteen years ago. We went in through the
front door, not the back door, befriended national leaders both in
political and religious circles. It took a lot of time and patience.
Luis just won favor with the People's Republic of China and they've
allowed him to do quite a number of outreach events. I don't know of
anyone else who's been allowed to do these things.
"In the process, Luis befriended Zhao Qizheng, the minister of
information and former Mayor of Shanghai, and they became very good
friends. Dr. Zhao then suggested to Luis, 'Let's do a televised debate
on Christianity and atheism.' So they did this national televised debate
that was also carried on the radio. They called it "A Friendly Dialogue
Between an Atheist and a Christian.' The marvelous thing about it was
that Dr. Zhao presented his case, but the Chinese authorities also
allowed Luis to explain what he believes, why he believes it, why he's a
Christian and why he's a follower of Jesus.
"And the most fascinating thing is that they took the audio of the televised debate, had it transcribed and then Dr. Zhao and Luis were given editorial license to edit the transcript and make it into a book. The Chinese government printing press published it and it became a best seller."
David then explained why the Palau Association has, in recent years, expanded his outreaches into festivals.
"What happened was we
shamelessly copied the Billy Graham model for years feeling why not copy
the best. Luis and our ministry have the greatest respect and
admiration for Dr. Graham and the Billy Graham Evangelistic
Association," he said. "In the early days, they were so gracious and
generous to help us get going. Actually it was a gift from the Graham
Association that enabled Luis to start his ministry.
Luis with two of his sons -- Kevin, left
and Andrew right |
"At first I think Luis thought this was going to destroy his ministry and I know he was wondering what in the world are the pastors going to think of this model. And when we did the first festival in '99 in Portland, Oregon, some reporter asked Luis, 'Well, how many people do you think will come?' Luis replied, 'I'll be happy if 5,000 people show up and then I'll be giddy if 10,000 people show up, but you know if 5,000 show up we'll be happy.'
"We had 93,000 people show up
for the event and the impact on the city of Portland was absolutely
fantastic. It was the beginning of what's being called 'The Portland
Story,' a model for sustainable community service and evangelism.
There's just something very special happening in Portland, Oregon and it
started with a prayer movement and that '99 festival."
What does festival consist of?
Kevin Palau, president of the Luis Palau Association, speaking at the 2008 Portland Festival
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"In the evenings there will be
several headlining bands and obviously that's very attractional for
people. And then Luis will do what he's been doing for five decades --
he'll give the Good News. He might be wearing khakis and a polo shirt as
opposed to a suit and tie, but the message hasn't changed, just the
packaging. And we always save the best band for last because we realize
that if Luis were last on the agenda a lot of unchurched kids might
leave the park after the final band. We purposely leave the last band
till the end of the evening.
Luis' son Andrew preaching at the
San Diego Festival in 2010 |
I concluded the interview by
asking David what was the biggest lesson he had learned from Luis Palau
over his many years of working him.
"I think one of the lessons
was something that happened when I left the business world 35 years ago
to join Luis," he said. "A very wise man, Dr. Jim Williams, pulled me
aside and he said, 'The most important thing you need to know when you
go into ministry is some things aren't wrong; they're just different.'
And that's something that those of us who are followers of Jesus Christ
forget at times. I think a lot of times we want to attach a moral value
to things that are just a matter of taste and they're not really right
or wrong, they're just different."
And Luis Palau is definitely different, but what a legacy he has given to the world.
To learn more about the ministry, please go www.palau.org and to hear the entire interview with David Jones, please go to: http://www.assist-ministries.com/FrontPageRadio/FPR7.21.13DavidJonesMono.mp3
Note: I would like to thank Robin Frost for transcribing this interview.
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